Phoenix 2 Cups | Copper | Polished Finish

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Phoenix 2 Cups | Copper | Polished Finish

The Phoenix 2 cups are the newest generation of the original Ross Bertam style of cups. Charlie Miller made this cup style famous when he released his version of this cup decades ago thru Magic Inc. and called it "A Man's Cup". He called it that because the cups were hefty and fit well in the hand. That cup was recreated by RNT and resurrected as the "Phoenix Cup" and is still available from Tom Franks. This cup is an improvement on the Phoenix Cup and now holds a tennis ball size load and accommodates 3 1" balls on the saddle when the cups are nested. During the redesign we decided to build the cup from the ground up to be spun in heavy .064 copper and that modification tightened up the tolerances on the cup so there is absolutely no unnecessary wobbling when the cups are stacked - they nest firmly but don't stick. What was at one time "A Man's Cup", is today a very serious, heavy weight, masculine cup for the discriminating performer who wants a little piece of history AND all the modern advancements one has come to expect in a cup.


Each cup is hand spun from the original RNT II tooling in heavy .064 copper and polished to a glossy finish on their exterior. The interior is a brushed satin finish.


  • 3 Phoenix 2 Cups
  • 4 x 1" RNT Red Balls
  • Velvet Bag

Phoenix 2 Cups | Copper | Polished Finish made in USA.





Height per ea:
3 inch
Height per set:
5 1/4 inch
Inside Diameter:
2 13/16 inch
Inside Depth:
2 3/4 inch
Saddle Diameter:
2 1/8 inch
Dimple Depth:
1/4 inch
Weight per ea:
7 oz (200g)
Weight per set:
1 lb 5 oz (595g)

Recommended Balls

All Purpose:
1 inch (25mm)
2 Balls Nested:
1 inch (25mm)
3 Balls Nested:
1 inch (25mm)
Load Ball:
2 5/8 inch (67mm)


Artist or Manufacturer:


IF there is a super set of cups made, the Phoenix 2 are the best made. these cups are heavy and well balanced set of cups. these cups I have beat the hell out of for 6 months and they have lasted thus far. are they worth the price? let me tell you, I bought a set of Galli Galli cups and A set of Monti. these cups didn't last at all. I had to send the Monti back to have their mouth rounded out. I got pissed off and wanted to try a true man's cup. these cups are the best cups ever made. they are worth the 270 dollars! I should never have other cups anywhere else. please buy off rnt2 website for the best cup ever made.

I received my Phoenix 2's today. Super fast shipping. This is my first set of high quality cups and I couldn't be more pleased. These things are bloody gorgeous and handle beautifully. Thanks a lot and give my compliments to whoever turned these!

Ever since I first saw these cups I have wanted a set. This week I finally got to own them. Everything about them is great, the size, the weight, the 'feel' and the care that went into making them. Out of the different cup sets I own, the Phoenix II's are my favorites. I will even go further than that, the Phoenix II's are my favorite cups of all! Thanks to all at RNT for giving me a chance to work with these - Thanks guys!

A great set of "workers", I've used them for the last year and love them. Highly Recommended.
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